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From: brian
Subject: Yaesu FT-5100/5200 mods

Originator:brian
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Austin, TX.

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 15:59:30 GMT

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I've received many requests for the 5100/5200 mods, so I'm posting

them.  I'd like to get them onto an ftp site or two, but can't do that

myself, so please e-mail me if you can do this for me.  Thanks to the

contributors and the folks who reviewed Rev A!



  73,  Brian



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     Yaesu FT-5100/FT-5200 MODS

 Rev B (14 Apr 1993)





This is a collection of hardware and software mods for the Yaesu

5100/5200 pair.  I have the 5100, so I can't verify these for the

5200.  I have collected every mod seen on the net (ie. Usenet) since

the introduction of the 5100, so I think this list is fairly complete.

I am interested in getting updates and corrections to this list, so

please send me e-mail if you find something that needs updating.

(This includes typos, wrong or missing attributions, caveats, warnings

about unmentioned side effects, serial numbers of radios that won't do

some of these mods, etc.)



SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS MAY DAMAGE YOUR RADIO IF YOU PERFORM

THEM IMPROPERLY.  WHEN IN DOUBT, DO NOT PERFORM THE MODIFICATION.



This advice is free, so remember that you get what you pay for.



Brian McMinn (brian.mcminn
N5PSS

512-462-5389



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Backlight Control:



Effect:manual control of backlight



1) Hold down the MHZ key and turn radio on

2) Use tuning knob to adjust brightness

3) When FUNC is active, the tuning knob will adjust

   brightness again.

4) You can restore automatic control by repeating step 1.



Notes: Manual is fuzzy on this feature.



Attributed:Yaesu



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Crossband Repeat (reported as working on 5100 and 5200):



Effect:Enable crossband repeat



1) Dial up two frequencies you want to crosslink (be sure to

   pay attention to transmit offsets, if any)

2) Turn radio off.

3) Hold down the RPT key and turn radio on



Result: The tone encode/decode flags and the -+ flags will be

flashing and the radio will be in low power mode.  When either

band's squelch opens, the other band is moved into the primary

frequency display and the transmitter keys.  Audio link

appears to be speaker to mike.



Exit crossband repeat mode by repeating steps 2 and 3 above.



Attributed:Yaesu



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Transmitter Timeout:



Effect:automatically limit transmitter "on" time



1) Hold down the HIGH/LOW button and turn radio on

2) Use tuning knob to change the number in left VFO.  This

   number is number of minutes for the timeout timer.  The

   factory default appears to be 15 minutes.

3) Transmitter shuts off with "Err" displayed in VFO if the

   time limit is exceeded.



Attributed:Bill Mayhew, N8WED, wtm


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Crossband Audio Enhancement:



Effect:unmuffle crossband audio



Connect a 27K ohm resistor between the audio-in and auido-out

leads on the data jack (inside the shell of a mini plug, that

is).  The mic element stays live while in xband operation.  It

is a good idea to remove the mic from the rig while cross

banding if you need/want to eliminate ambient audio.



Attributed:Bill Mayhew, N8WED, wtm


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The "P" Key on the microphone:





I was curious about that "P" key on my FT-5100, so I called

Yeasu and they explained the situation.  They designed the the

mic to accomidate "future products".  The "P" key is there to

be taken advantage of at a later date by other models.  They

just did not want to re-design the mic again within a short

period of time.



Attributed:Will Collier, KB5WRK, COLLIER


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Expanded Receive:



Good Effect:enable extended receive coverage

 New range:  128-180MHz and 420-475MHz

Bad Effect:disable automatic repeater shift selection.



Warning:This mod does not apply to the FT-5200 as the design

   is somewhat different.



Warning:You must have a very steady hand or else!  A

   magnifying glass would help too.



1) Disconnect DC Power cable from radio. ALWAYS!



**Caution** NEVER TRY TO TAKE APART (DISASSEMLBLE) THE FRONT

            CONTROL HEAD. It will void your warranty.



2) Remove (6) screws from Top Cover of Radio and (6) screws

   from Bottom Cover of radio.

3) Remove Top & Bottom Covers from Radio (Be careful of speaker

   falling out).

4) Remove the (2) silver screws on each side of the radio

   holding front control head to main body of radio.

5) Carefully pull away (a few inches) the Control Head from

   the radio body. CAREFUL with the Ribbon Cables.



**NOTE** There are no numbers on the circuit board so you will

         have to match up with the diagram below.



6) On the rear of the Control head locate, Unsolder and remove

   jumper Pad R4072.

7) Solder across jumper pads:R4070 R4068 & R4064 (use wire or

   0 Ohm resistor)



**NOTE** If you want to change the D/MR button on the

         microphone to do Band Switching, now is the time.

         See the next mod.



8) Install Front Control head, Speaker, Top and Bottom Covers

   and Reconnect Power to the Radio.

9) Press and hold [D/MR] [F/W] [REV] Keys and turn on the Radio.

   Radio will now show 300.000 & 20.000 on Display.

10) Set UHF Rx Low - Press [MHz] and dial 420.00, press [D/MR]

11) Set UHF Rx High- Press [MHz] and dial 475.00, press [D/MR]

12) Set UHF Tx Low - Press [MHz] and dial 420.00, press [D/MR]

13) Set UHF Tx High- Press [MHz] and dial 450.00, press [D/MR]

14) Set VHF Rx Low - Press [MHz] and dial 128.00, press [D/MR]

15) Set VHF Rx High- Press [MHz] and dial 180.00, press [D/MR]

16) Set VHF Tx Low - Press [MHz] and dial 140.00, press [D/MR]

17) Set VHF Tx High- Press [MHz] and dial 150.00, press [D/MR]

18) Set UHF offset - Press [F/W] then [RPT] dial 5.000 press [RPT]

19) Set UHF tuning - Press [F/W] then [REV] dial 25.0  press [RPT]

20) Set VHF offset - Press [F/W] then [RPT] dial 0.600 press [RPT]

19) Set VHF tuning - Press [F/W] then [REV] dial 20.0  press [RPT]

 (VHF tuning step varies by state -- many use 15.0)



Diagram:[there are no tabs in this section - ed]



        Ok, here's where it gets tricky, but so you know, a '|'

           represents a jumper.



                !Ribbon  !                       !Ribbon  !

                !Cable   !                       !Cable   !

            ____!J4002   !_______________________!J4001   !_____________

            !   !________!                       !________!            !

            !                Rear view of FT-5100                      !

            !    ____        Control Head.                             !

            !    !  !                                                  !

            !    !__!     | | | | |                                    !

            !                        | | | | | | | | | | | | |  | | |  !

            !                        R R R R R R R R R R R R R  R R R  !

            !                        4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4  4 4 4  !

            !                        0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  0 0 0  !

            !                        5 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 7  0 0 0  !

            !                        1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2  1 3 4  !

            !__________________________________________________________!

        

        

        Stock US Jumpers        After Mod. Jumpers

        R4001                   R4001

        R4003                   R4003

        R4004                   R4004

        R4051                   R4051

        R4061                   R4061

        R4062                   R4062

                                R4064

        R4067                            <- for D/MR button mod

                                R4068

                                R4070

        R4072



This mod is on Delphi as FT5100.MOD and on anomaly.sbs.com.



Attributed:Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR system


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Band Switching via D/MR button on microphone:



Effect:D/MR button on microphone performs band switching

   rather than D/MR function.



1-5) as in above mod

6) Remove the jumper on Pad R4067

7) skip above step 7

8) continue with step 8 above



Attributed:Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR system


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[end of mod sheet Rev B]



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Band Switching or Tone Burst via D/MR button on microphone (5200):



Effect:change function of D/MR button on mike.



This is based on information from Yaesu in Japan.



The functions of pin 5 (the microphone button) can be altered

by changing jumpers in the control head.  To find these

jumpers, see the section on packet radio in the ordinary

instruction book.



                                  Control Head Jumper No

Pin 5 Function                   Closed Jumper Marked By X

                                1      2      3      4      5

D/MR                            X

Band                                   X

1750Hz Tone Burst               X      X

Main band Busy Out                            X

Sub band  Busy Out                            X

Call Channel                    X             X





Main / Sub band busy out - When open SQL = 5 Volt DC

                           Closed    SQL = 0 Volt DC

[ed - I'm not sure what this means since I don't own a 5200]



Attributed:John Newgas, G7LTQ jnewgas
            g7ltq


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Mute Level (5200):



Effect:[ed - I'm not really sure]



See above for location of jumpers, etc.



Mute Level Selection            1      2      3      4      5

No Mute

Minimum                                              X

Middle                                                      X

Maximum                                              X      X



Attributed:John Newgas, G7LTQ jnewgas
            g7ltq


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Crossband Repeat (5200):



Effect:crossband repeater

Bad effect:CTCSS function is lost



[ed -- there is another crossband mod in this list...]



This is based on information from Yaesu in Japan.



These jumpers are located in the main radio case.  For

location, refer to the FT5200 Technical Guide.



1) Remove (open) JP5017 on the interface unit

2) Press and hold PRI button while switching on the power.

3) The FT5200 will now work as a cross band repeater.

4) The CTCSS function will be lost.



Attributed:John Newgas, G7LTQ jnewgas
            g7ltq


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Extended Frequency Range (5200):



Effect:set receive and transmit range.

Bad effect:ARS gone.



This is based on information from Yaesu in Japan.



These jumpers are located in the main radio case.  For

location, refer to the FT5200 Technical Guide.



1) Close (short) JP5001, JP5002, JP5003, JP5006 and JP5007

2) Remove (open) JP5004 and JP5005



The frequency range possible will now be approximately :

VHF        Rx  110 - 180 MHz         Tx  130 - 180 MHz

UHF        Rx  330 - 480 MHz         Tx  425 - 465 Mhz



The radio's alignment was done at the factory for your

original frequency bands and so there will not be optimum

behavior outside these ranges.  Broadening the alignment will

sacrifice performance at usual frequencies.  In practice, the

alignment does not need adjustment.



You can program the frequency limits now.  [ed - note the

similarity (and dissimilarity!) to the 5100's program-limit

sequence above]



3) Press and hold [D/MR] [F/W] [REV] keys and turn radio on.

4) Program in VHF low edge of Rx

        VHF high edge of Rx

        VHF low edge of Tx

        VHF high edge of Tx

5) Repeat for UHF in the same order.



I [John] have not done this so I can give no further advice on

programming.



Attributed:John Newgas, G7LTQ jnewgas
            g7ltq


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Extended Frequency Range (5200):



[ed - yes, there are two mods and I include them both since

they are so different in style (and perhaps content).]



Effect:set receive and transmit range.

Bad effect:ARS gone.



The following explains how to expand the receive and transmit

frequency range of the Yaesu FT-5200 and how to enable the cross-

band repeater operation.



All the modifications are carried out on the interface board and

involve removing or adding links on jumper spots.



You will get considerably increased receive and transmit

coverage; however, you will lose the Automatic Repeater Shift

(ARS) feature.You may think this is an acceptable price.

Finally, it should be obvious,but during this procedure you

will obviously lose any stored memories.



1) Remove the control head and set on one side

2) Remove the upper and lower covers on the main chassis.  For

   convenience, remove the speaker, noting which way the two

   pin pcb connector is oriented. [ed -- does it matter?]

3) Remove two side screws holding on the front of the chassis

   and remove chassis front.  (The chassis front is the

   surface with the contacts for the control head.)

4) Locate a double row of ten by two jumper spots, numbered 1

   to 20.  The jumper configurations will depend on the area

   for which the rig was intended.  Note the arrangement if

   you ever want to un-modify your radio.

5) Using a fine-tip soldering iron, set the jumper spots as

   follows:



           1    closed

           2    closed

           3    closed

           4    open

           5    closed

           6    closed

           7    closed

        

6) This completes the alteration for frequency expansion.

   Reassemble the radio.

7) Reinitialise the radio by simultaneously holding D/MR, F/W,

   REV and POWER.  You must now program in the band limits.

   The display will show a blinking "1" in the left-hand

   memory box and "000.000" in the left-hand frequency

   display. (Ignore the right-hand display for now).  The

   following limits are suggested, but the RF circuitry of the

   rig will only cover slightly less.  Use the dial or up/down

   buttons to select the frequency and then press D/MR to

   store it.  The blinking "1" will increment.



   VHF rx: 137.000   174.000

   VHF tx: 137.000   174.000

   (display will show blinking "1" and "300.000")

   UHF rx: 410.000   470.000

   UHF tx: 410.000   470.000



   (Note:it is possible to set the RX limits wider than the

   TX limits; for obvious reasons you cannot have the reverse

   situation).

8) You can repeat step 7 above at any time if you need to

   change the limits.

9) The pre-set repeater offsets are now no longer available

   and you will have to set them up manually using the

   instructions on page 16 of the manual.  The Automatic

   Repeater Shift (ARS) feature (also on page 16 of the

   manual) will also have disappeared and you will have no way

   of getting it back (except by changing the jumpers back).





   To enable the crossband repeat, remove the link at

   jumper spot 17. (Note, just below jumper spot 17 is a

   separate jumper spot,  not part of the group of twenty -

   leave this alone).



Attributed:Hugo Cornwall



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Cross Band Repeater (5200)



Effect:enable crossband repeat



[ed - this is a continuation of the above]



1) You can enable the crossband repeater without altering the

   frequency coverage.  The only hardware alteration is the

   removal of link 17.

2) To enable, turn on rig while holding down [RPT] button.

   The rig is now a crossband repeater - you will get

   confirmation of this from the display:the 100s position on

   the two frequency displays will be replaced by a "R".

3) While in cross-band repeater mode you can change the

   frequencies of each band.

4) The crossband repeater suffers from desense.  It works

   better at low power and even better if you use an external

   diplexer and separate antennas.  The more isolation between

   the two bands, the better.  As with all cross-band

   repeaters, results will be poor if the UHF frequency is a

   direct multiple of the VHF frequency.  If you are planning

   extended use of a crossband repeater, make extra sure that

   the rig is adequately ventilated.



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[end of mod sheet Rev C]



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